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Cardinal Martini and Don Verzé The confusion is so great

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Above a Cardinal Martini particularly "ecumenical" and Don Verzé "prophetic"

Let's go back (after the post of June 5 ) to some reflection on the book that marks the reconciliation - apparently not just editorial - from the card. Martini and Don Verzè. The article that follows, taken from the increasingly intriguing (in a good way!) " Weekly Padre Pio "of the Franciscans of the Immaculate , returns to the subject with firm and clear tones of Father Alfonso M. Bruno.

WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT

Father Alphonse M. Bruno, FI

It is an opinion piece on the new book of martini-Verzé has resurfaced with illusions and moral and doctrinal confusion. Taking advantage of the Areopagus of social networks the aim is to give back to a public debate that once might just be the preserve of dictators of relativism.

We're all in this together is the title of a booklet of 92 pages in which the card. Carlo Maria Martini and Don Luigi Verzé interact by sliding the "basket" of their thoughts on the product pus from the wounds of our society. I wanted to get hold of this book and read it in one breath sorbendone soporific all charge of déjà vu and déjà entendu (the already seen and heard) the Catholic progressivism. Despite the rhetoric of the two found wandering navigators, the book has the demerit of being boring, and the merit of being small enough to take a little boredom.

At one time, to exchange ideas, opinions and ideas was the town square. Perhaps in the cafes of yesteryear, frequented by bourgeois intellectuals, he would talk about this book as advertised. In the last decade, in which social meeting space went from real to virtual, the square and the bars have become the social network tool internet.La what intrigued me and I wanted to navigate the "basket" of my judgment to the ports and the squares of the blogs, read the post. I wanted, then, analyze the reception of printing this book and then again the reactions of the traditionalists and the modernists because we're in the culture of polarization, reductive and misleading as a service to the truth, when dealing with matters related to faith and moral.

In the Company of the anchormen card. Martini is now associated with all the progressive opening of the Catholic world, it was almost an icon. The book in question, "the devil's advocate" is Don Verzé with provocative questions and reflections that attempts to Cardinal toms of the charge of relativism (p. 14). Don Luigi Verzé offered the chair at the university "San Raffaele" of which he is rector of people like Vito Mancuso, a former priest "contraccezionista", Salvatore Natoli denier of eternal Life and advocate of neo paganism, Emanuele Severino defender of man " supergod "and co-eternity of creation to God, and Edoardo Boncinelli, militant-Darwinian evolutionist.

The weak thought is present in the book with a scheme to which we are already familiar: the ethos of the burning issues with summoning, the pathos of those who suffer for their own moral disorders, and logos with a conclusion of conciliation, the invitation to find a solution, but without any statement of position (pp. 53 to 57). Popular writers, faithful to tradition, such as gnocchi and Palmaro write: "The average Catholic can not ignore that if the Pope decides on a theme, just check Cardinal Martini in a counterpoint. The Pope wrote a book about Jesus? He would have done better. The Pope liberalized the Latin Mass? He would not have aroused pernicious nostalgia. The Pope reaffirms the primacy of Peter? He appeals to collegiality. The Pope notes the slips of the Vatican? He convened the Vatican III "(the Free 20/5/09 p. 37).

Even the progressive, though, this book will not make the service much. He lacks the ideological core, a port of arrival, where to moor the boat while it is surely that of Peter. To ensure sale and interest to the book, ie, gain, the action remains in the operation of marketing with the help of the press. The frame of the big newspapers lends itself to the cause (commercial) back to the question "cooked and eaten," the divorced and remarried and priests from marrying (then hope that divorzino! Ed) praising the retired archbishop of Milan, the "sdoganatore ".

Says the card. Martini on priestly celibacy: "It's a very delicate question. I believe that celibacy is a great value that will always remain in the Church: Gospel is a great sign (ethos, ed.) Not that you must enforce it at all, and already in the Eastern Catholic churches are not required to all priests (pathos, ed.) I see that some bishops propose to give the ministerial priesthood to married men who already have some experience and maturity (viri probati). It would not, however, should be responsible for a parish, to avoid further growth of clericalism. It seems much more appropriate to do these related to the parish priests as a group that operates in rotation. It is however a serious problem (logos, ed) "(p. 56).

The Corriere della Sera comes to the fruit with the letters to the Editor of television presenters Pippo Baudo and Gerry Scotti. The two represent the paradigm in the Italy of negative values, the easy money and who wants to approach the Blessed Sacrament as cohabiting or divorced and remarried. Pippo Baudo writes the "Dear Director" Ferruccio De Bortoli: "The opening of the card. Martini for divorced, can not but welcome surprise. And if the Church decides to take on this case would be a big step forward for those who, like me, have lived "in sin" according to the canonical code, but remained in their underwear believers and practitioners [...]. "
I remember that shortly before his death, Alberto Sordi was a guest in an episode of "Sunday in". When the Roman actor resumed his famous declaration: "I am a believer, a devout Catholic. I go to Mass on Sundays. I do Communion, "Pippo Baudo mocked him. How to privacy Pippo Baudo, civilly married for eighteen years with the Italian opera singer Katia Ricciarelli and from her split with in 2004, had two children (not her): Alexander, played by Mirella Adinolfi in 1963 and recognized only by the presenter in 1996 following a legal matter, and Tiziana, now his secretary and assistant, founded in 1970 by his marriage to Angela Lippi. Between the two marriages Pippo Baudo has had a long relationship with Alida Chelli, former wife of Walter Chiari. His problem, then, is not the "canonical code."

Gerry Scotti, however, writes: "Dear Editor, I am a divorced man in my position and waited for the progressive Catholic Church had ruled on the issue of the sacraments to those who has a marriage behind. I guarantee that this second kind of original sin must feel that the divorce is a burden on him. And if you attend a community, get to be ashamed to take communion in the [...] For many reasons, including confidentiality, are not so present in the church. I recently happened to a funeral and a confirmation, that does not concern me directly [if the funeral had been about the "right" hardly could tell him there now ... editor's note]: taking the Eucharist, however, wanted to show that attending deeply. And then if I'm wrong once and God has forgiven me, I can not risk mistakes again. "

I would just point out that the presenter has never been married in church, even though it is currently a second companion, and that nothing would prevent him from then to approach the sacrament of marriage, contrary to the Eucharist received in sacrilege - as he says - "not mistakes again. "

It would be very desirable in the next book, Archbishop emeritus of Milan, in some notion pills (hoping it does not legitimate the birth!) [Father, do not suggest, there is no need ... ed] on the Commandments, the Sacraments, devotion to Our Lady ("the golden mean ... ': cf p. 91) and prayers to help people like Gerry Scotti, who goes to Mass at the funeral [which do not directly riguardanoi ed] Confirmations and Pippo Baudo, or that there should be at the wedding of his daughter, both regret not being able to receive Communion, because it really claim to be "practicing Catholics" and I'm so convinced that we "almost" we believe.

You post on the blog, however, shows that the true soul of the common people, of those Italians moved from a healthy fidelium sensus that martini or other interested very little. A surfer wrote on Twitter: "I also like many, in almost twenty years of marriage I have often thought of divorce. I did not because I have always believed that the promise exchanged wedding day was sacred, not a deal any, any contract. Many friends and acquaintances rather have quietly divorced when they felt like it, maybe even several times (and of course go to Mass and Communion, because I have never seen a priest refuse communion). Martini, who will say to the poor and Don Verzé fes (...) we have believed and that in spite of difficulties and sacrifices have opted for the most difficult choice, that is not to divorce? They will tell you: Well, you could also get divorced the same time it is? ".
A phrase that stuck with me in the book is that of Don Calabria, of which he was Secretary Don Verzé own: "I hear Jesus crying my Church, my Church" (p. 9). This convinces me that, contrary to what is written on the back cover of We're in the same boat, those thoughts will never be a real hope for future humanity. The two pilots have strayed off course.

Better read Dante: "And here to us in a boat / old, white with ancient hair, / crying:" Woe to you, wicked souls! / No hope of ever seeing the sky: / i 'come to take you to the other bank / the eternal shades in heat and' no frost '"(Inferno, Canto III).

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There, there, at least no doubt of that, my lord!

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5 comments to Cardinal Martini and Don Verzé The confusion is so great

  • dalpaolo

    A Father Alphonse M. Bruno, FI
    What you write (in form and content) on the dialogue that took place between his two "brothers" is really embarrassing!
    Does he think best represent faith, hope and, above all, the charity of the Church of Christ, in dialogue with the world?

  • John

    The eminence emerita interacts with the world or to comply with the world? The difference between the two terms there, but in some pseudo-Catholics are the same.
    For me, dialogue with the world on issues of euthanasia and is not to deny the divorced and remarried Catholic identity. Can I talk to, I can understand, I can have motions of charity and fraternity, remaining in the belief that such attitudes are contrary to the teaching of Christ.
    Others, however, seem to be the idea that there can be no true love without approval of the error, as if Our Lord forgave the adulteress has the incentive to continue in sin. Contrary said, "Go 'and sin no more."

  • Father Alphonsus Maria is hard but he speaks the truth, and that is its greatest act of charity; also expresses opinions, shared or not, but certainly not likely to deviate from the teaching of the Church of Christ, which certainly can not be sacrificed to the "dialogue" , without disrespect. As a not entirely friendly, if anything, there are pictures and captions (my choice), but it's actual pictures and captions that are certainly against the truth ...

  • Zadig

    A CARDINAL EXPLAINS THE STRENGTH OF THE CHURCH TO RECONCILE: GRACE ALSO LIVES IN THE COCA-COLA AND PANINI:
    "Just a few days ago I baptized seven children of a single woman, a poor widow, who is the maid, and he had had two different men. I had met her last year at the feast of San Cayetano. I said, Father, are in mortal sin, I have seven children and I have never baptized. It was successful because he had no money to be godparents from afar, or to pay for the party, because he had to always work ... I proposed to see us, to talk about this thing. We felt by telephone, came to see me, told me that I could never find all the sponsors and to gather them together ... In the end I said, we do everything with only two seconds, representing the others. They all came here and after a little catechesis I have baptized in the chapel of the archbishopric. After the ceremony we did a little refreshment. A Coke and sandwiches. She told me, father, I can not believe it, she makes me feel important ... I replied: but madam, do I come?, It is Jesus who makes her important. "(Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio, archbishop of Buenos Aires).

    The real fact of the Gospel in the Vatican happens while you baloccano capital with theological questions as Communion kneeling, on the language and style Latin Mass "lusparpè lucciattè" (as my dear grandmother spoke the Latin of the "eternal rest").

    Dream of the Lefebvrists, even dream of. No Turning Back.

    • For her communion is a "baloccamento"? I wish, with all my heart, to turn back, as I wish to recognize the Catholic Church, no adjectives, and in particular related to various pre-and post-councils, the only way, that yes, to move forward in Christ. Merry Christmas

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