Let's go back (after the post on June 5 ) some reflection on the book that marks the reconciliation - apparently not just editorial - from card. Martini and Don Verzi. The following article, taken from the more intriguing (in a positive way!) " Padre Pio's Weekly "from the Franciscans of the Immaculate , returns to the subject with firm and clear tones of Father Alfonso M. Bruno.
WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT
Father Alfonso M. Bruno, CA
It is an opinion article on the new book Martini Verzé has resurfaced with illusions and moral and doctrinal confusion. Exploiting the Areopagus of social networks aim is to return to the public sphere once again a debate that might just be the prerogative of the dictators of relativism.
We are all in the same boat is the title of a booklet from 92 pages in which the cards. Carlo Maria Martini and Don Luis Verzé talk and slide the "basket" of their thoughts on product pus from the wounds of our society. I wanted to get me this book and read it in one breath sipping throughout the soporific charge of deja vu and deja entendu (the already seen and heard) the progressive Catholic. Despite the rhetoric of the two sailors found wandering, the book has the merit and demerit of boring to be so short as to take a little boredom.
A time and place for the exchange of views and ideas was the village square. Perhaps the cafes of yesteryear, frequented by bourgeois intellectuals would probably be described in this book as advertised. In the last decade, in which the space of social encounter went from real to virtual, the square and the bars have become the social networking tool internet.La what intrigued me and I wanted to navigate the "basket" of my critical ports and squares of various blogs, read the post. I wanted to then analyze the acceptance of printing this book and then again the reactions of the traditionalists and modernists as we are in the culture of polarized, simplistic and misleading as a service to the truth when dealing with issues relating to faith and morals.
In the Company of anchormen card. Martini is now associated with all the progressive opening of the Catholic world, it was almost an icon. The book in question, "devil's advocate" is Don Verzé with provocative questions and reflections to the Cardinal tries to clear the charge of relativism (p. 14). Verzé Don Luis offered the chair at the University "St. Raffaele "which is rector of people like Vito Mancuso, a former priest" contraception ", Salvatore Natoli denier of eternal life and proponent of neo-paganism, Emanuele Severino defender of man" supergod "and co-eternity of creation to God, and Edward Boncinelli, militant-Darwinian evolutionist.
The thought is weak in this book with a scheme to which we are already accustomed to: the ethos with evocation of burning issues, the pathos on those who suffer for their own moral disorders, and logos with a conciliatory conclusion, the call find a solution, but without any position (pp. 53 to 57). popular writers, faithful to tradition, such as dumplings and Palmaro write: "The average Catholic can not ignore that if the Pope decides on a theme, just check Cardinal Martini to act as counterpoint. He writes a book about Jesus? He would have done better. The Pope liberalizes Latin Mass? He would not have caused pernicious nostalgia. The Pope reiterates the primacy of Peter? He appeals to collegiality. The Pope notes the slips of Vatican II? He convened the Vatican III "(Free of 05.20.2009 p. 37).
Even progress, however, this book will not make the service much. It lacks an ideological core, a port of arrival where to moor the boat while it is certainly that of Peter. To ensure sales and interest in the book, namely profit, is the use of marketing operation with the help of the press. The frame of the big heads lends itself to the cause (commercial) back to the question "cooked and eaten" of divorced and remarried and priests from marrying (and hopefully not divorzino! Ed) applauded the archbishop emeritus of Milan, the "customs clearance .
Cardinal says. Martini on priestly celibacy: "It's a delicate question. I believe that celibacy is a great value that will always remain in the Church is a great sign Gospel (ethos, ed). Even so you must enforce it at all, and already in the Eastern Catholic churches is not asked all priests (pathos, ed). I see that some bishops propose to give the priestly ministry to married men who have some experience and maturity (viri probati). It would not, however, should be in charge of a parish, to avoid further growth of clericalism. It seems much more appropriate to those related to the parish priests as a group that works in rotation. It is in any case a serious problem (logos, ndr) "(p. 56).
Corriere della Sera arrives at the fruit with the letters to the Editor conductor television Pippo Baudo and Gerry Scotti. The two represent the paradigm in the Italy of negative values of easy money and who wants to approach the Blessed Sacrament as unmarried or divorced and remarried. Pippo Baudo writes to "Dear Editor" Ferruccio De Bortoli: "The opening of the card. Martini for divorced, can not but welcome surprise. And if the Church decides to take on this case would be a big step forward for those who, like me, have lived "in sin" in the code of canon law, but remained in their underwear believers and practitioners [...]».
I remember that shortly before his death, Alberto Sordi was a guest in an episode of "Domenica In". When the Roman actor resumed his famous declaration: "I am a believer, a devout Catholic. I go to Mass on Sundays. I do Communion, Pippo Baudo they derided him. How much privacy Pippo Baudo, civilly married for eighteen years with the Italian opera singer Katia Ricciarelli and distinct from her in 2004, had two children (not her): Alexander, played by Mireille Adinolfi in 1963 and recognized only by the presenter in 1996 due to a legal matter, and Tiziana, now his secretary and assistant, founded in 1970 by his marriage to Angela Lippi. Between the two marriages Pippo Baudo has had a long relationship with Alida Chelli, former wife of Walter Chiari. His problem, therefore, is not the "code of canon law."
Gerry Scotti, however, writes: "Dear Editor, I am a divorced man in my position and waited for the progressive Catholic Church to pronounce on the sacraments for those with a marriage behind. I guarantee that this second kind of original sin that divorce is a burden on him must feel. And if you attend a community come to be ashamed in making the communion [...] For a thousand reasons, including privacy, are not so present in the church. I recently happened to a funeral and a confirmation, that did not concern me directly [if it had covered the funeral "directly" we hardly could tell him now ... ed]: taking the Eucharist, however, I wanted to understand deeply involved. And then once if I'm wrong and God has forgiven me, I can not risk mistakes again. "
I would just like to point out that the presenter has never been married in church, but the current is with a second partner, and that nothing would prevent him from then to approach the sacrament of marriage, contrary to the Eucharist received in sacrilege for - as he says - "not mistakes again. "
It would be very desirable in the next book, Archbishop emeritus of Milan, some knowledge in a nutshell (and hope that those contraceptives are not legitimate!) [Father, suggests, there is no need ... ed] on the Commandments, the sacraments, devotion to Our Lady (the mean ... ": see p. 91) and prayers to help people like Gerry Scotti going to Mass for the funeral [which do not directly riguardanoi, ed] Pippo Baudo and confirmations or that there should be at the wedding of his daughter, both regret not being able to receive Communion, because it really claim to be "practicing Catholics" and I am so convinced that we "almost" we believe.
You post on the blog, however, shows that the true soul of the common people, those Italians moved from a healthy fidelium sensus that martini or other interested very little. Wikio A surfer writes: "I also like many, in almost twenty 'years of marriage I thought many times of divorce. I did because I always believed that the promise exchanged wedding day was sacred, not any covenant, a contract any. Many friends and acquaintances but have quietly divorced when they felt like it, maybe even several times (and of course go to Mass and Communion, because I have never seen any priest refuse Communion). Martini and telling the poor Don Verzé fes (...) we have believed and that in spite of difficulties and sacrifices have chosen the most difficult choice, that is not to divorce? The say: Well, you could also divorce is much the same? ".
A sentence that impressed me in the book is Don Calabria, which was its Secretary Don Verzé: "I hear Jesus crying my Church, my Church" (p. 9). This convinces me that, contrary to what is written on the cover of We're in the same boat, those thoughts will never be a real hope for future humanity. The two pilots lost their route.
Better read Dante: "And here to us in a boat / an old, hoary hair, / crying:" Woe to you, wicked souls! / Do not hope ever to see heaven s' come to lead al'altra shore / To the eternal shades in heat and 'frost' (Inferno, Canto III).

- There, there, at least not doubt that, Your Eminence!







A Father Alfonso M. Bruno, CA
What you wrote (in form and content) on dialogue took place between his two "brothers" is really embarrassing!
Does he think to best represent faith, hope and especially love the Church of Christ in dialogue with the world?
The eminence emerita interacts with the world or to comply with the world? The difference between the two terms there, but in some pseudo-Catholics are the same.
For me dialogue with the world on issues of euthanasia and divorced and remarried is not to deny the Catholic identity. Can I talk, I can understand, can I have the motions of love and brotherhood, while remaining convinced that such attitudes are contrary to the teachings of Christ.
Others seem to be the idea that there can be no true charity without approval of the error, as if our Lord forgave the adulteress has the incentive to continue in sin. Contrary said 'Go and sin no more. "
Father Alfonso Maria is hard but telling the truth, and is its greatest act of charity also expressed views, shared or not, but certainly not likely to deviate from the teachings of the Church of Christ, which certainly can not be sacrificed to "dialogue" , never to disrespect. Not entirely respectful, if anything, there are images and captions (my choice) but they are real pictures and captions that are not going against the truth ...
A cardinal explain the strength of the conciliar Church: grace also live in Coca-Cola and sandwiches:
"Just a few days ago I baptized seven children of a woman alone, a poor widow, who works as a maid and had had two different men. She had met last year at the feast of San Cayetano. I said, Father, are in mortal sin, I have seven children and I have never baptized. It was successful because he had no money to be godparents from afar, or to pay the party, because he must always work ... I proposed to see us, to talk about this. We felt by telephone, came to see me, told me that he could never find all the sponsors and to gather them together ... In the end I said to do everything with only two seconds, representing the other. They all came here and after a little reflection I have baptized in the chapel of the archbishopric. After the ceremony we made a small refreshment. A Coke and sandwiches. She told me, father, I can not believe it, she makes me feel important ... I replied: But Lord, have I got?, Jesus makes it important to you. "(Monsignor Jorge Mario Bergoglio, archbishop of Buenos Aires).
The real fact of the Gospel happens while the Vatican has toyed with theological issues such as capital communion kneeling, language and style Latin mass "lusparpè lucciattè" (as my dear grandmother spoke the Latin of "Requiem aeternam").
Dream of the Lefebvrists, even dream of. Back does not go back.
For Her communion is a "Toys"? I wish, with all my heart, to turn back, as I wish to recognize the Catholic Church, without adjectives, particularly on various pre-and post-councils, the only way, that yes, move forward in Christ. Merry Christmas